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Historical Accuracy

Last post 08-01-2007 4:52 AM by gregoryp. 4 replies.
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  • 07-27-2007 12:51 PM

    Historical Accuracy

    Hi all, I noticed that the B-25c in both the 1% and normal versions has a couple of historical inacuarcies. First off, the B-25c is supposed to have a lower rear turret, second of all, the "C" was able to carry rockets, which the 1% version doesn't have. If you could please fix those errors that would make the model much better.

    (If anyone knows how to modify 1% aircraft please post how to)

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  • 07-27-2007 3:47 PM In reply to

    • gregoryp
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    Re: Historical Accuracy

    Most B-25's had their lower turret removed in the field to save weight and they were very hard to use, let alone hit anything.

    On the rockets can you point me to a link so I can educate myself and fix it correctly?

     

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  • 07-28-2007 9:19 AM In reply to

    Re: Historical Accuracy

    Sorry, My bad, I got the "J" and the "C" mixed up

     

    :-)

     

    http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Lab/1688/AMERICA.HTM#b25

     

    Also, just a note in passing, the B-17 has cheek turrets, but they aren't playable, Is that possible to fix?

     

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  • 07-29-2007 9:33 AM In reply to

    • Russ
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    Re: Historical Accuracy

    I found the following quote at this web site http://www.acepilots.com/planes/b25.html :

    The B-25A included pilot armor and self-sealing tanks. The B-25B introduced the notoriously unsuccesful Bendix ventral turret. Harold Maul, a B-25 crewman, described the ball turret in Eric Bergerud's  Fire in the Sky: The Air War in the South Pacific:

    "The worst thing ever designed was the bottom turret of the B-25. It was the stupidest bit of equipment. My God, the operator is sitting in one place getting a reverse image through a mirror. He couldn't hit a thing. It slowed the damn plane down, and we weren't getting belly attacks anyway. What they really needed was a tail gun, which they eventually installed."

     

     

     

     Also:

    An unusual character named Paul "Pappy" Gunn entered the B-25 story in the South Pacific, in the Fifth Air Force's Third Bomb Group. The relatively ancient Captain Gunn, 40 years old - thus the nickname "Pappy," a master of the American "can do" spirit, modified a number of aircraft for 5AF boss, General George Kenney. Gunn and his team transformed the B-25, tossing out the useless ventral ball turret, removed the bombardier position, and then added six forward-firing .50 caliber machine guns. The resulting power of these massed .50 caliber machine guns was awesome, and the 3rd BG's pilots used them to good effect, blasting away at Japanese barges and shore targets. A Zero caught by such a lead hailstorm simply exploded.

    Russ Big Smile

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  • 08-01-2007 4:52 AM In reply to

    • gregoryp
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    Re: Historical Accuracy

    avro_pilot:

    Sorry, My bad, I got the "J" and the "C" mixed up

     

    :-)

     

    http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Lab/1688/AMERICA.HTM#b25

     

    Also, just a note in passing, the B-17 has cheek turrets, but they aren't playable, Is that possible to fix?

     

     

    Unfortunately there is a bug in CFS3 that limits up to 9 man-able gun positions. More than that and the pilot starts to lose instruments.

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